My Photo
Blog powered by TypePad

Evolution Weblogs Of Note

  • ERV
    Evolution's secret weapon--research backed by wit.
  • Pseudo Science Blog
    What's that BPSDB logo all about?
  • The Loom
    Carl Zimmer frames the discussion.
  • Bad Astronomer
    Explainer of atronomy to the masses and almost as popular as PZ.
  • Science and Evolution
    Science and Evolution, decoded.
  • Exploring Our Matrix
    Butler University Religion Professor Explores
  • Church Burning Ebola Boys
    How can you go wrong with a kickass name like that? Check out (and contribute) to the Tard quotes.
  • Angry Astronomer
    Angry? Yes, for good reason. But thoughtful, witty and great photographs.
  • Right Wing Techno Pagan
    creationism opposed by all shades of the political spectrum
  • Check Six
    Evolution amid the flotsam and jetsam of the mind
  • Respectful Insolence (Orac knows)
    M.D. seeks insolent facts, discussing science, medicine and psedoscience and medicine-- a lot to talk about.
  • Stranger Fruit
    ASU Biologist's well named blog
  • Pharyngula
    A biologist specializing in zebrafish. What soes this have to do with Evolutuion? Oh, nearly everything.
  • Evolution Blog
    Blog by founder of Multiple Designer Theory, perhaps evolving into a great chessplayer
  • The Panda's Thumb
    Scholarly site with multiple contributors. Most have also published books debunking Intellgient design and Creationism. High level science background recommended

Daubert Expert Resources

Evolution Web Resources

  • Afarensis
    reality based humanoid's blog
  • Origin of Species Online
    For God's sake, read the dang thing before you proclaim any thoughts on evolution!! Now it's online at your fingertips. Go. Read. Then, pontificate if you must.
  • Talk Origins
    The master site containing the most comprehensive of evolution and anti-evolution sites and information on the web. A model example of how to really teach the controversy.

Junk Science Sites

Religous Critiques of Intelligent Design

AddThis Social Bookmark Button

Links to here

« December 2006 | Main | January 2008 »

Luskin contradicts Behe

Casey Luskin, you need to talk to Michael Behe, he didn't get the memo.

Luskin claims that evil Darwinists misrepresent ID thusly:

Dr. Kampis says:

"The Intelligent Design movement holds that living organisms are too complex to have arisen through random mutation and natural selection, and therefore must have been designed by some outside entity."

Question: Where do ID-proponents define ID like that? Answer: Nowhere.

Where would Dr. Kampis get such an outlandish idea?

Probably from the horse's mouth--Michael Behe.  Here's Michael Behe interviewed in Godspy magazine, making the same point made by Kampis:

Godspy Magazine:      But isn't your main scientific argument, in fact, falsifiable? You claim that random mutation and natural selection—the Neo-Darwinist mechanisms of evolution—could not have produced certain structures in the human cell, such as the flagellum, because these structures are "irreducibly complex"—in other words, if you remove one part the whole system doesn't work. You claim such a system could not have evolved incrementally, and would need to have been designed somehow. Isn't this falsifiable? If Neo-Darwinists can show how these structures could have evolved, then it would prove your point false, right?

Dr. Behe:      That's correct.

Godspy:       Would it be compatible with ID to say that the design in the universe, or in human life, is, in some way, a reflection of the Logos?

Dr. Behe:     Yes, that's perfectly compatible with ID.

As any unbiased onserver can see, Kampis has fairly summarized Behe's position.  Maybe Casey Luskin can try again and offer his own definition of ID.  I'm pretty sure that any definition he might offer has already been contradicted by Discovery Institute Fellows.  It is a simple fact that DI/ID proponents will say anything to the general public to avoid ID's creationism, yet are quite candid about the creationist foundation of ID when speaking to a religious audience. 

Discovery Institute can't even lie accurately

The Discovery Institute is still pouting over the Flying Spaghetti Monster, claiming that it "mocks religion."

No. It mocks creationists who palm their creationism off as scientific.  Big difference.

Undeterrred, the Discovery Institute "quotes" Glenn Branch of the Nation Center for Science and Education, thusly:

Now in an interview with the Toronto Star, Glenn Branch of the National Center for Science Education (NCSE) has defended such mocking of traditional religion by Darwinists as "light hearted fun" that is "probably healthy.

You know why I put quote marks around the word "quotes."  The DI is pathologically incapable of quoting accurately or in context.

Let's look at the real quote:

Keeping track of creationist activity and combating it is a tiring and often thankless chore and enjoying light hearted fun at the opposition's expense is probably healthy.

As is plain, The FSM does not mock religion- and Glenn Branch is not approving of religious mockery.  The FSM effectviely mocks creationists who misrepresent both religion and science--people well worth mocking.

Of course the best way to defeat mockery is to actually address the point of the pundit.  So, John West, please tell us how Intelligent Design distinguishes between the Flying Spagetti Monster and the Deity of your choice. Oh, and keep in mind Job 13:7-11.