The Cheap Tuxedo unravels

Intelligent design has been called “creationism in a cheap tuxedo”

John West of the Discovery Institute finds his tuxedo disintegrating. John, spend some money on one and dump that cheap one.

He complains that people, for some reason or another think ID has a religious component. Go figure. Here he is:

“If this legislator wants to promote creationism, he should say so plainly. But by invoking the term design, he wrongly conflates creationism with intelligent design.”

If John West is going to challenge fellow creationists who recogize intelligent design for what it is  he will be a very busy man. Here’s a short list of sites to get him started—each site is a religious /apologetic site that comfirms intelligent design and creationism are one and the same. This is really no surprise to fundamentalist Christians, and who "misled" them in the first place? Was it the National Center for Science and Education that was hawking ID books at all those Biola "Mere Creation" conferences? I don’t think so.

I expect he will contact the site managers of each of the following to point out their errors and request a correction. I hope he has an open calendar:

http://www.allaboutgod.com/science.htm

http://www.reasons.org/resources/links.shtml

http://www.probe.org/content/view/759/67/

http://www.abideinchrist.com/links/helps.html

http://www.tsoup.org/redirect.php?referer=links.php&link=http://www.newcreationism.org
“intelligent Design is complementary to creationism”

http://www.tsoup.org/links.php
various creationist sites listed alongside discovery institute

http://www.str.org/links/apolorgs.htm
approved organizations include Discovery Institutte, IDEAnet and Reasons to Believe and Answers in Genesis

http://www.leaderu.com/menus/apologetics.html
Leadership U lists intelligent design under “apologetics”

http://christiananswers.net/creation/aqoo/home.html
great creationist film setting out intelligent design arguments

http://www.worldbydesign.org/
title says it all.


http://www.bible.ca/tracks/b-booklist.htm
creationist indiscriminate reliance on ID materials

Here's Phillip Johnson defining “creationism” to include Intelligent Design in 1992 before he got the memo and declaring himself as a creationist in 1990 when it was still politically correct to do so:
http://www.apologetics.org/articles/whatisdarwinism.html

and PJ again,
http://www.arn.org/docs/johnson/pjdogma1.htm

and again:
http://www.origins.org/articles/johnson_evolutionofacreationist.html

see also,

http://www.creationresearch.org/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=BI
be sure to check out their bookstore!

http://www.godandscience.org/evolution/
Intelligent Design is “A testable, falsifiable, predictive biblical creation model”

http://www.intelligentdesign.org/
send e mail to [email protected]

and don’t forget, Intelligent Design is the “Bridge Between Science and Religion”
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0830815813/ref=ase_christianhomes04/002-0013278-3164862?v=glance&s=books

I guess Dembski didn’t get the memo either.

http://www.origins.org/mc/
"Mere Creation: Scholars united under Intelligent Design"
didn't get the memo either...

And the smoking gun from New Mexicans For Science and Reason.

I’d really like to hear Mr. West’s explanation for that last one. Meanwhile I simply got bored checking out all of the fundamentalist sites claiming Intelligent Design as their own.

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Comments

[John Jones]

Wow...

*applause*

[Godan]

Excuse me, but your characterization of what my page says is absolutely false and deceptive. According to your blog, my site proclaims that "Intelligent Design is “A testable, falsifiable, predictive biblical creation model”" This is not what the page says. In fact, it says that ID is not a scientific theory because it lacks a model and fails to predict. So, you either 1) can't read or 2) are a liar. Either way, we have a problem here!
Rich Deem
Can Intelligent Design (ID) be a Testable, Scientific Theory?

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